If you see the people walk away & know whose it was, you cash out & hand them the ticket. I had left a $250 voucher in a machine at the track & walked back to my table & was looking through my tickets & saw I didn't have my voucher, went back to the machine but my voucher was gone.
The guy that took out saw me looking for it & came over yo my table & asked if I lost something & then handed me the voucher, I thanked him & bought his table 2 pitchers of beer, that's the least I could do.
If you don't know whose it is, then cash it out & take the money because your odds of winning at a slot is very low.
Then again, I know a local pizza/bar owner that won the powerball for over 20 million & then when she was in Vegas for vacation, she won 1 million on the slots, lol! When you're lucky, you're lucky.......but your odds are very low at the slots. Actually the odds ate the worst.......
$150 puts gas in the car for 3 weeks, take it & run even tho you don't need it.
The guy that took out saw me looking for it & came over yo my table & asked if I lost something & then handed me the voucher, I thanked him & bought his table 2 pitchers of beer, that's the least I could do.
If you don't know whose it is, then cash it out & take the money because your odds of winning at a slot is very low.
Then again, I know a local pizza/bar owner that won the powerball for over 20 million & then when she was in Vegas for vacation, she won 1 million on the slots, lol! When you're lucky, you're lucky.......but your odds are very low at the slots. Actually the odds ate the worst.......
$150 puts gas in the car for 3 weeks, take it & run even tho you don't need it.
This ^^
( back in the Day, when they still had Money come out of the Machine ) I remember seeing someone walk up to a machine and Cash out. Then some guy in a suit walks up to him and grabbed him. security guard to follow and they walked the guy to the security room. Found out from a pit guy it was Illegal to take the cash. They called it something back then, but forget what it was.
You might think that the answer to this question would be unambiguous, but in fact it's something of a gray area, since it isn't actually covered by law. According to NRS 120A.135, a 1989 addition to the law governing Abandoned Property, this statute specifically does not apply to unredeemed gaming chips or tokens. Likewise, although all chips and tokens are officially the property of the casino that issued them and thus in theory should be returned if found, in practice it seems that if someone has exchanged their cash for a token and then lost that token, the application of that rule becomes somewhat hazy. The only applicable provision of the Nevada State Gaming Control Board's Regulation 12 governing Chips & Tokens states, "A licensee shall not redeem its chips or tokens if presented by a person who the licensee knows or reasonably should know is not a patron of its gaming establishment" (12.060). This appears to put the onus on the casino to figure out whether you'd gambled there when you found the bounty and if so, it seemingly does not apply whether or not you won that specific chip.
Having verified which laws don't apply, we called the Gaming Control Board in an attempt to get some kind of official line on this, only to be told it's the law of "finders keepers" that pretty much applies in such instances. Of course, the casino would prefer you to hand in the token, so that it can be returned to their chip stack, but how often is security going to know for sure whether you're picking up a chip that you dropped yourself or one that you just happened to spot on the floor? And how is the person at the cage going to know whether you found it or won it? The only time that Regulation 12.060 might come into effect would be if the chip was of a relatively high denomination in terms of the establishment norm (i.e., $500 might catch the attention of a downtown cage, but it might take a $5000 chip to arouse any suspicion at the big Strip joints). If the casino suspected that a large chip was not yours, then they would be within their rights to question where and when you won it and would be able to verify this from the records at the table where you claim to have gotten it. But if it's a chip worth $100 or less, it's much harder for them to trace, since so many of them are in play at any time and it probably wouldn't be considered worth the time or effort to verify ownership.
When we checked with the security departments at various casinos to see what their in-house policy was in practice, we found that it varied from property to property. Some agreed with the "finders keepers" rule, while at others it was in theory mandatory that you hand over what you find to security. In these instances, if the money remains unclaimed after a certain period of time (anything from 15-60 days, we found) then it's yours to keep. To conclude, although the casinos we spoke with did not appear to have stringent negative policies in place with regard to the keeping of money or chips that you might find on the floor, other properties may take a dimmer view of this. The practice of "silver mining" or "slot walking" (deliberately scouting the machines for money or TITO tickets inadvertently left behind) is generally looked upon as lowlife behavior and in some casinos is specifically outlawed.
Could be Silver Mining or Slot Walking.
You might think that the answer to this question would be unambiguous, but in fact it's something of a gray area, since it isn't actually covered by law. According to NRS 120A.135, a 1989 addition to the law governing Abandoned Property, this statute specifically does not apply to unredeemed gaming chips or tokens. Likewise, although all chips and tokens are officially the property of the casino that issued them and thus in theory should be returned if found, in practice it seems that if someone has exchanged their cash for a token and then lost that token, the application of that rule becomes somewhat hazy. The only applicable provision of the Nevada State Gaming Control Board's Regulation 12 governing Chips & Tokens states, "A licensee shall not redeem its chips or tokens if presented by a person who the licensee knows or reasonably should know is not a patron of its gaming establishment" (12.060). This appears to put the onus on the casino to figure out whether you'd gambled there when you found the bounty and if so, it seemingly does not apply whether or not you won that specific chip.
Having verified which laws don't apply, we called the Gaming Control Board in an attempt to get some kind of official line on this, only to be told it's the law of "finders keepers" that pretty much applies in such instances. Of course, the casino would prefer you to hand in the token, so that it can be returned to their chip stack, but how often is security going to know for sure whether you're picking up a chip that you dropped yourself or one that you just happened to spot on the floor? And how is the person at the cage going to know whether you found it or won it? The only time that Regulation 12.060 might come into effect would be if the chip was of a relatively high denomination in terms of the establishment norm (i.e., $500 might catch the attention of a downtown cage, but it might take a $5000 chip to arouse any suspicion at the big Strip joints). If the casino suspected that a large chip was not yours, then they would be within their rights to question where and when you won it and would be able to verify this from the records at the table where you claim to have gotten it. But if it's a chip worth $100 or less, it's much harder for them to trace, since so many of them are in play at any time and it probably wouldn't be considered worth the time or effort to verify ownership.
When we checked with the security departments at various casinos to see what their in-house policy was in practice, we found that it varied from property to property. Some agreed with the "finders keepers" rule, while at others it was in theory mandatory that you hand over what you find to security. In these instances, if the money remains unclaimed after a certain period of time (anything from 15-60 days, we found) then it's yours to keep. To conclude, although the casinos we spoke with did not appear to have stringent negative policies in place with regard to the keeping of money or chips that you might find on the floor, other properties may take a dimmer view of this. The practice of "silver mining" or "slot walking" (deliberately scouting the machines for money or TITO tickets inadvertently left behind) is generally looked upon as lowlife behavior and in some casinos is specifically outlawed.
Anh Huu Nguyen, a resident of Massachusetts, was playing at Pennsylvania’s Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem when he noticed an envelope on the floor containing $240 in cash. What great luck! Nguyen picked up the envelope, slinked away to the restroom and put the cash in his pocket, surely feeling that he had just hit the jackpot. Unfortunately, in doing so, he had broken the law.
In the state of Pennsylvania – and in most states, for that matter – it is illegal to take any money or property that you find without making a reasonable attempt to return it to its rightful owner. If you find money or property and didn’t see who left it, the honorable thing to do is take it to a police station and turn it in. You tell them you found it and they have you fill out a report. If no one claims it within a certain amount of time, you are contacted and you get to keep it legally. Most people don’t do that because morality is a foreign concept to the general public. In the outside world people get away with it most of the time, because no one can prove it was their money that you took.
In a casino, it’s a completely different matter. A casino is the worst place in the world to commit a crime, because every inch of the building is monitored by security cameras. Still, it happens. The most common instances of theft against other customers are picking up left behind money or chips, playing credits left in a slot machine or cashing in an abandoned voucher. Once a customer realized that they have lost something, they report it, security checks the cameras, find footage of them losing it and then the other person using it. That’s not good for the thief.
At Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem, the general policy is to give the offender a chance to return the property to the other customer. If the money is already gone, they give the person a chance to reimburse them. In that case, if the victim doesn’t want to press charges, the offender is free to go. If the thief can’t or won’t return the property, an arrest is made. In this case, Nguyen was arrested after claiming that he didn’t have any money left behind in an envelope. He was taken to jail, where he will be charged with theft and receiving stolen property.
Let this be a lesson to all gamblers. Finders keepers, losers weepers may be a common practice in grade school, but it is illegal. Taking someone else’s property is wrong, and is stealing, no matter how you came upon that property. Nguyen thought he was in for a lucky day when he found $240 dollars, now he’ll have to pay $15,000 just to get bailed out of jail.
In the state of Pennsylvania – and in most states, for that matter – it is illegal to take any money or property that you find without making a reasonable attempt to return it to its rightful owner. If you find money or property and didn’t see who left it, the honorable thing to do is take it to a police station and turn it in. You tell them you found it and they have you fill out a report. If no one claims it within a certain amount of time, you are contacted and you get to keep it legally. Most people don’t do that because morality is a foreign concept to the general public. In the outside world people get away with it most of the time, because no one can prove it was their money that you took.
In a casino, it’s a completely different matter. A casino is the worst place in the world to commit a crime, because every inch of the building is monitored by security cameras. Still, it happens. The most common instances of theft against other customers are picking up left behind money or chips, playing credits left in a slot machine or cashing in an abandoned voucher. Once a customer realized that they have lost something, they report it, security checks the cameras, find footage of them losing it and then the other person using it. That’s not good for the thief.
At Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem, the general policy is to give the offender a chance to return the property to the other customer. If the money is already gone, they give the person a chance to reimburse them. In that case, if the victim doesn’t want to press charges, the offender is free to go. If the thief can’t or won’t return the property, an arrest is made. In this case, Nguyen was arrested after claiming that he didn’t have any money left behind in an envelope. He was taken to jail, where he will be charged with theft and receiving stolen property.
Let this be a lesson to all gamblers. Finders keepers, losers weepers may be a common practice in grade school, but it is illegal. Taking someone else’s property is wrong, and is stealing, no matter how you came upon that property. Nguyen thought he was in for a lucky day when he found $240 dollars, now he’ll have to pay $15,000 just to get bailed out of jail.
If you find unattended money at the Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem, don’t pick it up—unless you are aiming to end your night in jail.
Steven Lynn Harpel, 59, of Souderton is finding this out the hard way.
According to Pennsylvania State Police gaming control officers, Harpel stumbled onto $1,280 that had inadvertently been left in a jackpot machine by a casino attendant.
Harpel then took the money and left the casino, troopers said. According to the arrest affidavit, the incident, which occurred on April 24, was captured on video and Harpel was identified through his Sands Casino player’s card.
State police dispatched Souderton Borough Police officers to find Harpel and ask him to call the investigating state trooper, the affidavit said. Harpel then called the trooper and admitted to the theft, police said.
Further investigation revealed that Harpel was involved in a theft at Harrah’s Casino a year ago, the affidavit said.
Harpel was charged with theft of property lost, mislaid or delivered by mistake. He was arraigned Monday before District Judge Patricia Romig-Passaro and released on $5,000 unsecured bail.
Steven Lynn Harpel, 59, of Souderton is finding this out the hard way.
According to Pennsylvania State Police gaming control officers, Harpel stumbled onto $1,280 that had inadvertently been left in a jackpot machine by a casino attendant.
Harpel then took the money and left the casino, troopers said. According to the arrest affidavit, the incident, which occurred on April 24, was captured on video and Harpel was identified through his Sands Casino player’s card.
State police dispatched Souderton Borough Police officers to find Harpel and ask him to call the investigating state trooper, the affidavit said. Harpel then called the trooper and admitted to the theft, police said.
Further investigation revealed that Harpel was involved in a theft at Harrah’s Casino a year ago, the affidavit said.
Harpel was charged with theft of property lost, mislaid or delivered by mistake. He was arraigned Monday before District Judge Patricia Romig-Passaro and released on $5,000 unsecured bail.
I love this one
A guy more or less figured out a software glitch in a variety of slot machines that would enable a series of button presses that would lead to larger awards, and then he used that to win a lot of money.
Or this one
A guy used a slot machine that had faulty software -- and was arrested for doing so. Each time he put in $1, it was credited as $10.
Now how about this????
He didn't just spot a machine with a glitch, but he then actively exploited that glitch, knowing it was a glitch, and took steps to enable that glitch on various machines (to make it work, he apparently had to have casino staff change some settings on the machines, which they would do since he was a "high roller.")
I have never heard of that. Why have high limit slots if you can go out on the floor and fidget with payouts.
A guy more or less figured out a software glitch in a variety of slot machines that would enable a series of button presses that would lead to larger awards, and then he used that to win a lot of money.
Or this one
A guy used a slot machine that had faulty software -- and was arrested for doing so. Each time he put in $1, it was credited as $10.
Now how about this????
He didn't just spot a machine with a glitch, but he then actively exploited that glitch, knowing it was a glitch, and took steps to enable that glitch on various machines (to make it work, he apparently had to have casino staff change some settings on the machines, which they would do since he was a "high roller.")
I have never heard of that. Why have high limit slots if you can go out on the floor and fidget with payouts.
I can't believe all these people were arrested for finding money in the casino & pocketing it........
I was at the local OTB about 12 years ago & we were betting several tracks including Santa Anita & I remember 1 race at SA going off but you could still eager on the race while it was bring run........
A guy I new there was standing at a betting machine with a voucher in it & a TV above his head & the horses were coming down the stretch & he was betting $50 exacta straight with the 2 horses that crossed the finish line......he had hot the repeat button a lot, hr had about $1,000 on the voucher & had bet it all.
I remember he was looking to collect about $30,000 & was acting like a kid in a candy store.
He went up to the window with his exacta tickets trying to cash them but the manager had come over & said there was a glitch in the computers from SA & they were waiting on a word from.them, so he waited at the window but after 20 minutes, they said they couldn't pay him but were willing to give him back his original $1,000
He should have gone to the betting machines & try to cash the tickets & get vouchers to take up to the window to cash but didn't think of it.
He went to see a lawyer about it but had no case........
I still think if he had gone to the betting machine to get vouchers for his winning tickets, he would have gotten a $30,000 voucher because the machines didn't know not to cash out.......the manager was running around telling all the tellers not yo cash the tickets from that certain race.
Next day or 2 there was the article in the DRF about the SA incident.
I was at the local OTB about 12 years ago & we were betting several tracks including Santa Anita & I remember 1 race at SA going off but you could still eager on the race while it was bring run........
A guy I new there was standing at a betting machine with a voucher in it & a TV above his head & the horses were coming down the stretch & he was betting $50 exacta straight with the 2 horses that crossed the finish line......he had hot the repeat button a lot, hr had about $1,000 on the voucher & had bet it all.
I remember he was looking to collect about $30,000 & was acting like a kid in a candy store.
He went up to the window with his exacta tickets trying to cash them but the manager had come over & said there was a glitch in the computers from SA & they were waiting on a word from.them, so he waited at the window but after 20 minutes, they said they couldn't pay him but were willing to give him back his original $1,000
He should have gone to the betting machines & try to cash the tickets & get vouchers to take up to the window to cash but didn't think of it.
He went to see a lawyer about it but had no case........
I still think if he had gone to the betting machine to get vouchers for his winning tickets, he would have gotten a $30,000 voucher because the machines didn't know not to cash out.......the manager was running around telling all the tellers not yo cash the tickets from that certain race.
Next day or 2 there was the article in the DRF about the SA incident.
